Homeschool Bible Curriculum Teaches Foundations in Worship through Hymns

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that I remember to start recording.

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Well, hello, everyone.

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Welcome back to the Masterbooks podcast.

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I'm Jennifer White,

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and today I have two

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special friends with me.

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We are going to be talking

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about Foundations in Worship.

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This is a junior high and

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high school course

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That is a hymnology study

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and a Bible study and an

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inspiring character building study.

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There's so much to this course.

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And I'm looking forward to

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having you meet and hear

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from Christy Smith and Noreta Kendrick.

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They are going to tell you

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about their experience in

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homeschooling with this

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particular course.

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And we are looking forward

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to giving away a digital

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copy to someone in the

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Masterbooks app and someone

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in the Moms of Masterbooks

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Facebook group.

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Just watch for the post

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for how they want you to comment,

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All right, let's get started.

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All right, ladies,

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thank you so much for joining me today.

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Christy,

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I'd like you to introduce yourself.

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Tell us about your

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homeschooling career and your family.

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Just a couple of little

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things you want everybody to know.

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Well, um, hi,

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I'm Christy and thank you for

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having me today, Jennifer.

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I have four girls,

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just had my first

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Masterbooks graduate last year.

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So I'm down to homeschooling two of them,

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a senior and an eighth grader.

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We've started our school

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year and we're off running.

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So here we go.

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Awesome.

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And you also work in the Masterbooks app?

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I do.

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I am a moderator in the app.

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And then I also jump into

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Facebook as much as I can.

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All right.

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We love having your

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encouragement there and

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getting your ideas and what

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has worked for you.

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And Narita, tell us about you.

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That's how we met you, too, in the app,

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right?

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Yep.

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Yep.

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So I have six kids and two

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of them are graduate.

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Also,

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like mainly use masterbooks the whole

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way through.

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And I have four more at home,

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which is weird,

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a weird adjustment from

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high school down to going

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into fourth grade.

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And I've been homeschooled

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17 years and just I love Masterbooks.

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I'm thankful to be here.

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And I also love YouTube.

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Awesome.

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Thank you.

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Well, tell us about your experience.

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I want both of you to,

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but we'll start with

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Christy about your

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experience using Foundations in Worship.

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So what ages did you use it

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and how did you use it in your home?

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OK, well, here is Foundations in Worship.

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Here's the curriculum.

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It is geared for seventh

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through 12th grade.

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Last year,

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we used this as our morning time subject,

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also as our Bible curriculum.

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We did it first thing right after lunch.

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We would gather in the

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living room and everyone

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would bring their Bible and

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their journal and foundations in worship.

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And I used it with a seventh,

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11th and 12th grader.

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So.

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7th, 11th, and 12th grader.

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And so I've seen pictures of

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your family gathered around the piano,

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one of them playing some of the hymns.

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That is true.

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Yes, my daughter, my 11th grader,

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now my senior, loves to play the piano.

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And one of her favorite

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things to play is hymns.

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In fact,

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she was playing the hymns this

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morning as we were making breakfast.

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And it is such a

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a sweet moment.

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I miss this because my

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oldest is now married and

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she was my hymn player.

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So Kate has taken over that.

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And I was actually thinking

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and just thanking the Lord.

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for that and I know one day

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I'm really gonna miss it,

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but I guess I'll have to

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resort to putting it on my phone.

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But I really do enjoy

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hearing the hymns played

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and we sing along and

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sometimes we gather around the piano.

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There've been times where we've even said,

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oh, I can't remember the words,

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grab your book and we'll sing them.

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you know,

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but singing in my family goes way back.

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And we even love to get

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together and have even

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songs where we all just

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gather around and just sing

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the hymns and sing the

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scriptures together.

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So we have enjoyed this

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course for sure in my home.

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Well, that's wonderful.

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I'm so glad that all those

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ages have enjoyed it together.

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It was something you could all do.

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So you did it after lunch.

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Is that similar to doing

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like a morning basket or?

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Is it just like you just

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chose to put that in your

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routine at that point?

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Oh, I did it right after breakfast,

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actually.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Yeah,

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we did it as a morning basket type book.

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Okay, great.

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Okay, Narita,

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you had a very unique experience with it.

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And we want to hear how it went for you.

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So it was very unique.

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At first,

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my original plan was to do it

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like Christy,

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just right in our morning time and do it.

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But then I had about,

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five other friends who were like, Hey,

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we're going to do

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foundations and worship.

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And I was like, Oh, I am too.

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And then they were like,

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so do you want to put a

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group together and do it?

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And I was like, sure.

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And then they were like, okay,

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and you lead it.

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And I was like, that's great.

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So we're doing some of us

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had already done classes.

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Um, like we did biology.

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and a couple of other classes together.

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So it was kind of already

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neat to have our kids back together,

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but this time it was going

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to be for like worship.

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And the really neat thing

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was that a good majority of them,

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two of them were bandmates

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already and musically inclined.

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So I thought that that would

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be a neat way to have them

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also use their gifts while

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we were planning the course.

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So we...

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Yeah, I have it right here too.

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And then I had to have a

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teacher binder after having

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16 kids join us.

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And my youngest, who's nine,

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actually tagged along.

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And we had a couple of pro

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buddies that were siblings

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of older kids that also tagged along.

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But as far as in the class,

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during the presentations,

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we probably had the youngest being 11,

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a sixth grader, turning 12,

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all the way to 18 with a lot of seniors.

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And I think this is probably

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Master's Book's easiest course to make

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family style because you

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know you're just reading

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the scriptures and singing

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the hymns and there's so

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much like rich scripture

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and it makes the kids think

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and ponder and so we broke

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the kids up into two teams

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basically team A and

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worship team B we wanted

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them to know at the very

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beginning of the course it

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talked about what is

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worship and so once we

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spent some time talking

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about that and going

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through that we made

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worship team ups and we had like

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team captain and, you know, a helper.

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And they were able to have

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like five guidelines that I gave them.

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They had to really study the

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story of the hymn, who wrote it,

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the time period and the

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ties to scripture and this

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biblical significance or

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the doctrine or theology

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that that hymn was really

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pointing us back to.

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And to some really

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interesting rabbit holes.

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And I love how it starts off

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with what is worship?

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and then how firm a

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foundation which is

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actually one of my

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different hymns and then

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goes all the way to like

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the blood of christ the

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what is the gospel becoming

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the child of the king and

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then you know being

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complete in christ his

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finished work it's so

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gospel saturated uh you

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can't help but to have

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wonderful conversations and

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sometimes the work uh the

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worldview workout was

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a way for us to open the class.

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When we did the old rugged cross,

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they had to say what does

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the cross mean to them and

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read those out loud

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anonymously so that none of

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the kids were embarrassed

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because that was closer to

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the beginning and they were

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getting public speaking

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because that's also

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interwoven into the course.

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So each team would present

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at the beginning of class their hymn,

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and then the other team would go.

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And then as we got closer to

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the later weeks, it was one week,

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one team would present the next week,

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the other team would present.

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And then we had quarterly

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presentations where each

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child had to pick

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either the hem writer or the

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hem and present it.

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And that was really a neat way to do it.

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And for our Christmas challenge,

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in addition to the World We Work Out,

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which makes you think critically,

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and Tyna is like almost

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journal prompts to like

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really pierce your heart to

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think about it.

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We did Hearth the Herald.

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They had to add a hem to it,

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create a hem of their own.

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And that was really neat.

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They thought they couldn't do it,

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but they all worked

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together and they did it.

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And we spent about the first

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20 minutes of class of them

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as a team working together.

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And then we called them back

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in and they would present.

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And we had a Christmas party

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and we just sang Christmas carols.

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It was really fun.

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And we did, um,

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like we used YouTube and

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Spotify to create playlists.

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Um, that was,

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that was helpful because then

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I was able to send links to.

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Uh, the,

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the families so that they could be

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listening to them and playing them.

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And it would just,

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my hope was that it would

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become part of their family

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culture as much as it had

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been a part of ours,

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my husband and my two older

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children are worship leaders.

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So we're used to having like

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the hands and worship in there,

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but it was great for me to learn.

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Hems like Stand Up, Stand Up for Jesus.

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And because I hadn't heard that one.

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So that was a great one.

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And a lot of Charles

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Wesley's in there and I love his Hems.

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So it was great.

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It was great to see the

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different stories and have

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those conversations.

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The way we kept up with it

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in our home was that during

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our morning time,

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I sat and did it with my

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kids and then they were

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more ready to present and

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do their part for their team.

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And it showed them teamwork

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and public speaking and it was great.

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And we had great fellowship

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time being able to gather

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with friends and get

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basically in the word and

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sing and think biblically.

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And I'll get to tell you

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later when we hear more from Christy,

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but the way that this

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impacted the kids was amazing.

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Okay, yeah,

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we definitely want to hear about that.

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And I'm so excited that so

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many ages can participate in this.

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And I really want to take

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the course as an adult,

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like music and the power of hymns.

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The power of worship is amazing.

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And the power of hymns.

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I watched at the end of my dad's life,

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the way we just sang hymns.

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And then when we were tired

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of singing hymns, we just put them on.

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a cell phone and let him

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play next to his ear.

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And it changed the whole

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atmosphere of what was

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going on with the family and in the room.

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Everything just quieted down

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and got reverent.

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And I just think there's so much power.

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And I'm so excited for kids

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to learn this early and

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then be able to use it along the way.

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So let's talk about what

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your kids loved about it, Christy.

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But before I hit my kids,

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I'm going to say that I loved it.

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And it was a study that I

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didn't realize I would enjoy that much.

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I didn't realize that I

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would enjoy studying the

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hymns and learning about

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the author's lives and each

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one of the verses with all

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the scripture that it was based on.

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Like Narita said,

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it's so rich with scripture.

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So that has definitely been

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an impact in my life.

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As for my children, you know, it's neat.

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We raise them up in the church,

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and part of our church

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service is to stand and

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sing the hymn together.

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And it kind of becomes routine,

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and that's not good.

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So

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Now, you know, the song leader will,

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you know,

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tell us to grab our hymnal and

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open to a hymn and we stand to sing it.

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And as we were going through the course,

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I'm sure people around us were wondering,

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why is it that Christie's

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girls always look down and

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like smile at her when they

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say a certain hymn to open up to?

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And well,

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it's because we were learning

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about it in our foundations and worship.

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So I think that would be the first way.

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It really opened up the hymns to them.

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And it made worshiping at

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church more enjoyable

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because they understood it.

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It wasn't just something

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they did because that's what you do.

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Something that they could

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participate in more.

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They were familiar with the hymn.

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But then to also know the background.

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Most of these hymns were

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written out of a trial experience.

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out of a hard testing in someone's life.

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And they had to lean into

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the Lord to get through it.

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And in that leaning into scripture,

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reading more, growing,

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and the grace that was

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given to them from the Lord,

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they wrote these beautiful hymns, poetry.

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So that was really neat for

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them to know the background

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of the hymn and then to

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know the meaning of the verses.

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One of the

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activities that you do is to

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take your highlighter and

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to highlight the phrases of

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the verse where it is right in the hymn.

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And many of our hymns are

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straight phrases from scripture.

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Again, when we're singing scripture,

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you're going to be blessed.

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So I think that just really

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them enjoying singing,

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knowing what they're

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singing and wanting to sing it.

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Here at home,

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as we've kind of already said,

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there will often be hymns played and,

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you know,

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we'll put on hymns when it's

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quiet for sure.

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Like you said with your father,

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when the attitude or the

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spirit's a little off here at home,

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We can put on hymns and you know it.

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We're humming and we're singing along.

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We have smiles on our faces again.

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And it just those hymns come

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along and they're another

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tool that we have as we are walking,

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you know, walking this walk.

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That's beautiful.

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Norena, what did your kids love about it?

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A lot that they love.

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So my nine year old, you know,

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anytime you tell a good story,

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it sticks with them.

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Right.

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So my my nine year old love the stand up,

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stand up for Jesus and his

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arm being cut off.

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And so being and still

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preaching and like his last

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words on his deathbed was

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that he leaned in and told

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his wife and his his dad, just stand up,

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stand up for Jesus and

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teach my kids to do it.

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And then, you know, it's.

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became became ministers and

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that like just stuck with

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them like they didn't let

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obstacles like stop them

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from praising jesus and she

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also loved faith is the

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victory you know going

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around singing it but for

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my older kids they grow a

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greater appreciation uh and

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I'm not trying to be

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controversial or anything

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here but like the state of

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the modern church as a whole and the

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center worship versus the

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vertical worship of Christ

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and his worship.

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And that to them made them think like,

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am I going and trying to

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find a consumer attitude

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towards my worship or am I

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going and offering worship?

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And it kind of changed their

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whole perspective of what

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am I really singing back to Jesus?

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And that to me was very,

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it was very impactful to

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hear that because as you're

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launching out your kids,

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you kind of wonder,

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are they going to pick

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biblically solid churches?

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Will they continue a church with us?

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If they go away, what,

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how are they going to leave their family?

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And you're, you know,

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My sons say,

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as the one who's going to be

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appointed the leader of my family,

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like now I know that I need

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to look for not my preferences,

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especially as a musician, right?

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It's a little harder.

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I don't want your preferences.

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But to be rooted in solid

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doctrine and theology when

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we sing it back.

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to the Lord and to be more critical.

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One of the things when we

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did Hark the Herald was the virgin birth.

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And you kind of camp out on

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why the virgin birth is so important.

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And it's a very popular

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pastor in the South of

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Omega Church that you can

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kind of not worry about.

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It's irrelevant.

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It doesn't really matter.

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Let's just focus on the cross.

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And yet we got into a

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theological discussion of

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why it matters that it was a

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virgin birth and why it

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would be so important in that verse.

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And so just to think about

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what's being taught,

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what's being sung and

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preferences versus theology,

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like God commands how he

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wants to be worshiped.

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He's given that scripture for us.

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And it was for him to take

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on that whole new avenue

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was really important for him.

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And then for my other kids,

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it would probably be

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learning how to work and worship

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as a team and actually use

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your gifts in the church

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and to sing and worship.

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And kind of like Christie, our kids,

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when a song came on at

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church that we were singing, you know,

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whether it be how firm a

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foundation or something,

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they just sing it with a

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greater attitude and

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appreciation because now

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they knew they studied the

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speech scripture with Bible

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verses that would pop in their head.

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Or, you know,

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Isaiah is actually what's

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being sung and how, you know,

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how firm a foundation.

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So they knew now that they

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were literally singing the

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scriptures back to God,

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which is really me.

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And they really enjoyed that.

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So I have a few samples of the work.

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If you would like reading

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some of the work out.

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So like the old rugged cross

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was a lot of the kids favorite.

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I think that him kind of is.

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And they talked about Jesus

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taking on their shame and stuff,

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but they wanted to know, like,

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What does the cross mean to them?

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And it's just really neat to

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hear these because it's the

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cross to me is symbolized

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the death and resurrection

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of Jesus Christ,

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which spread hope to people, including me,

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that when we repent,

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we can be with our Lord and Savior,

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Jesus.

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The reason that the cross

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affected my life is that I

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can rest in peace in

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stressful times of my life,

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knowing that I am forever the Lord's.

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And then use Luke and

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Philippians as scripture references.

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And then somebody wrote,

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the cross is important to

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me because without it,

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there would be no hope.

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But God made it possible through Christ,

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the only living hope for us.

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And he is the only sinless

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man and fully God.

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The cross also has made a

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difference in my life,

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especially knowing the fact that Christ,

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A perfect man died for everyone,

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not just me.

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And then they said, John 14, 6,

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I am the way, the truth, and the life.

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No one comes to the Father

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except through me.

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Many people will twist this

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verse to say no one comes to the Father,

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but they leave out the rest.

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When people try to twist the verse,

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we Christians should stand

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up and tell people that we

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can run to the Father

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through the cross because

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Christ's death and resurrection,

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the cross is our only hope.

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And through Christ,

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we can find our strength.

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And then one other one.

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And it says that it's as simple as this.

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I should have been the one on that cross.

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In the Roman times,

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crucifixion was reserved for murderers,

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thieves, et cetera.

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But the cross belongs to the sinner.

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And Jesus, in all of his glory,

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came and died for us.

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It's crazy to think about.

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The cross is a symbol of our faith.

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It is my ransom payment for my faith.

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So, I mean, how do you,

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that is why we homeschool, right?

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Like to shepherd kids back

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to Christ and to have such

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an amazing resource to like,

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you know,

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put those seeds down in your kids

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and then see that it watered each day.

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And, uh, the Lord just,

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the Holy spirit do the work

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in them to make them

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quickly and to let their

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hearts grow in affection.

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And, uh,

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one thing that my daughter really

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loved about this course is

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that hands can be sung from

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great grandma down to her little sister.

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It's generational worship.

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And, uh,

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to have that come back was that

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she loved the way that it

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just strengthens the

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own faith because you can't

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go wrong when you stick to the scriptures,

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you know?

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Right.

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So I hope that was an

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encouragement because

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that's kind of just a

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glimpse of what our

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presentations were like

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when we did do them as teams,

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we had dads come in and cause you know,

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dads are not really involved, right?

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Most of the, it's hard to,

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to get them in the day to day.

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But it was neat to have,

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we picked a Thursday night and we,

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I would host or my friend hosts and,

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And we would just do dinner

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or appetizers and we would

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get right to it.

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And I used the evaluation

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sheets that are available in the book.

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And we had parents whose

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child didn't belong to them

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evaluate them.

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So it was two moms and a dad.

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So they could see like a

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male perspective and get

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like affirmation from, you know,

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another dad.

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And that was really neat to

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get feedback on their

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presentations and public speaking skills.

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but also the dads were so

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encouraged that their kids

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were growing and learning

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and even learning more

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about theology that made the dad be like,

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I need to, I need to get, you know,

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it's a great family worship book.

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Like if you do a family

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altar time or Bible study

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in the evenings or mornings,

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however it works for some families,

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usually dinner is when lots

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of people I know that do it,

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just to open it up and then

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sing the hymns with them.

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It was like a way that dad was learning.

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the hems with them too and

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just hearing that from the

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kids so I mean it just pays

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you back um you know a

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hundredfold with the

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blessing that this

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curriculum is it's

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definitely one of my top

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favorites and I think the

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age range and I think

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chrissy uh would agree um

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like it's perfect they you

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know I don't think it's too

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hard for a seventh grader

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and I don't think that it's

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too easy for a 12th grader

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like yeah and whether

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you're like a seasoned believer or

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know a new believer and just

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the you know the truth

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pierces and returns and you

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learn something new each

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time yeah would y'all

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recommend it for um church

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groups yes bible study

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groups or children's um

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sunday school class or

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discipleship classes oh for

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sure helping them get into

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the word it's got um

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some of the activities that

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you know come with each um

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hymn it's all based on

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scripture so to you know to

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go through and to read

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those scriptures to open

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them up together to discuss

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them to ask does that bring

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any other scripture to mind

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um we had a couple

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conversations like that um

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you know did that trigger

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something because you know we memorize

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a passage of scripture with our church.

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And one of the hymns that we were doing,

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it went right along with it.

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And I asked, does that trigger anything?

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And they're like, oh yeah, the hymn,

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I mean,

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the chapter that we're memorizing

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right now at church.

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So I think it would

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definitely work with a Bible study,

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with a Sunday school.

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Yeah,

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because the more I hear y'all talk

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about it,

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the more I want to get my

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friends together and do the

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together or invite my

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parents over in the

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evenings to work on it together.

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I really am excited about this course.

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And I love that you've had

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different experiences,

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but both really positive

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experiences in the way that

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you have integrated it into

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your lives and your

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children's lives and their

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feedback and Narita,

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you brought the dads in to see.

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And I know that Christy,

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I've seen your husband in

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the pictures with your students,

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your children doing this course.

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So we talked a little bit about it,

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but I want to see if there

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are other things you want

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to share about how you've

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already seen the impact of

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this course in their lives.

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You've already shared a few things,

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but I don't want to miss

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anything if you have

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something prepared to tell us.

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And then also this long-term

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impact of how the Lord,

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how the Holy Spirit is going to use this.

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What are your hopes?

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I hope that, like Nereida said,

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the seeds have been planted.

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in our children's hearts.

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And that's the most important thing.

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Algebra and science and

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history and language,

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all of that is wonderful.

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But if it's not based on God's word,

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and if we're not planting

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those seeds and watering them daily,

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then we failed at homeschool moms.

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That's what I feel.

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We've, you know,

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because God's word are

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raising our children to walk

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And to serve him, to walk with him,

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that is the most important thing.

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So courses like this help us

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and give us the tools to be

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able to sit down and talk

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with our children and to

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bring up things that we

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might not have thought about.

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I know in Deuteronomy 6,

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we're told to talk with

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them when we're sitting,

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when we're in the way, walking,

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when we're lying down,

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every aspect of our day.

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But sometimes that can be a challenge.

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So having a tool like

00:26:09.827 --> 00:26:10.969
foundations in worship,

00:26:11.048 --> 00:26:12.108
foundations in faith,

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even thank the Lord with master books,

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science, math, and language and history,

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we are given even more tools.

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So it doesn't just revolve

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around a course like this.

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So I think that would be one

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of the most important

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things is planting these seeds and

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And just having these

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discussions for us to,

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when we go through a hard

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time and you feel like

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you're the only one to go

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back to this cloud of

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witnesses that we have, these biographies,

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these hymns, we're not the only one.

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We are living in a sin-cursed world.

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Life is hard.

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We're going to face challenges.

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We're going to face trials.

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We're going to face doubts.

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Even John the Baptist faced doubts.

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So when we come to those moments to say,

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hey, it's not just you.

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Do you remember when we talked about,

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like Narita said,

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with the Stand Up for Jesus,

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the stories that we have learned?

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And Narita,

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I love that you picked out very

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specific examples.

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And I wish I would have had

00:27:23.038 --> 00:27:25.999
some of my girls' worldview workouts too.

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But to go and point to those examples,

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the one from It Is Well With My Soul,

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that one is so impactful

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that I know many people

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know with the author losing

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all of his children and his

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wife being the only one left.

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So it helps us put into

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perspective that failing a

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math test probably isn't

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the greatest trial we are going to face.

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Today or maybe even this week.

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So it really does help us

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get out of ourself and out

00:28:01.835 --> 00:28:04.538
of our self-focus.

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That's how we so easily want to look.

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and to get our eyes more

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looking unto Jesus.

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And here, these are some tools.

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These are some ways that we have,

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and we've had a whole year

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of practicing it.

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So to look unto Jesus,

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whether through music,

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through pulling out a hymn,

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a verse of a hymn that

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really meant something to you,

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And you can go back to it.

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Go back to that worldview

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workout where you were able

00:28:33.805 --> 00:28:35.906
to really hash out what

00:28:35.967 --> 00:28:37.248
that hymn meant to you.

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Those were really neat assignments.

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And they're easy to brush

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over because they're down

00:28:43.432 --> 00:28:44.453
at the bottom of the page.

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But to really...

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make it and for me I kept

00:28:48.898 --> 00:28:50.079
forgetting about it and one

00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:51.121
of my daughters would say

00:28:51.181 --> 00:28:52.482
mom my worldview workout is

00:28:52.522 --> 00:28:54.184
done and I'm like oh yes

00:28:54.285 --> 00:28:55.946
please bring that and read

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it tomorrow morning um we

00:28:58.409 --> 00:29:00.892
get together um so lord

00:29:00.932 --> 00:29:03.694
willing those seeds will

00:29:03.714 --> 00:29:05.396
grow and the lord will get

00:29:05.416 --> 00:29:07.880
the glory and the increase

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Well,

00:29:09.426 --> 00:29:11.627
and what I keep thinking is as an adult,

00:29:11.788 --> 00:29:13.489
I can see how learning hymns,

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singing hymns over and over

00:29:14.969 --> 00:29:15.910
for so many years,

00:29:15.930 --> 00:29:16.769
because I've been in church

00:29:16.809 --> 00:29:17.471
my whole life.

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And the Holy Spirit knows what I've heard.

00:29:21.692 --> 00:29:23.153
He knows those songs are in

00:29:23.192 --> 00:29:24.492
my heart and he can give me

00:29:24.653 --> 00:29:26.894
even just a few notes of

00:29:26.933 --> 00:29:28.174
the melody to remind me

00:29:28.234 --> 00:29:30.076
what he wants me to think about, you know,

00:29:30.296 --> 00:29:32.537
or to re-encourage me to go

00:29:32.596 --> 00:29:34.176
back and sing those worship

00:29:34.217 --> 00:29:35.337
words to the Lord and

00:29:35.717 --> 00:29:37.096
remember my salvation,

00:29:37.156 --> 00:29:38.597
rejoice in my salvation

00:29:38.938 --> 00:29:41.878
when my mind is getting too on me.

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And the other thing I want

00:29:43.538 --> 00:29:45.140
to mention is I think the

00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:47.299
book by Martin Isles, Who Am I,

00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:49.381
really helps with what

00:29:49.441 --> 00:29:50.840
we're talking about because

00:29:51.320 --> 00:29:54.521
it takes the worship off of ourselves.

00:29:54.642 --> 00:29:57.722
It takes the doing it right, you know,

00:29:57.782 --> 00:29:59.542
like the saving ourselves.

00:29:59.603 --> 00:30:01.503
It takes all that pressure

00:30:01.743 --> 00:30:05.025
off and it helps us look to Jesus, look,

00:30:05.435 --> 00:30:06.096
the covenant.

00:30:06.576 --> 00:30:08.557
And that is where our peace comes from.

00:30:08.977 --> 00:30:10.396
If we're turning ourselves

00:30:10.616 --> 00:30:12.377
inward all the time and

00:30:12.417 --> 00:30:14.538
worshiping ourselves in some way,

00:30:15.077 --> 00:30:16.638
that's not ever going to

00:30:16.699 --> 00:30:18.118
produce peace because we

00:30:18.219 --> 00:30:20.799
are faulty in need of a savior.

00:30:21.299 --> 00:30:24.020
So I'm excited for everyone

00:30:24.040 --> 00:30:25.080
who does this course.

00:30:26.020 --> 00:30:28.061
Narada,

00:30:29.082 --> 00:30:31.202
what do you see as the impact

00:30:31.323 --> 00:30:33.042
already and hope for the long term?

00:30:33.949 --> 00:30:36.192
So as odd as it may seem,

00:30:36.211 --> 00:30:37.914
I totally agree with Chrissy,

00:30:37.954 --> 00:30:40.678
like the same impact, right?

00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:42.641
Like that you're going to

00:30:42.681 --> 00:30:43.843
have these for generational.

00:30:43.863 --> 00:30:44.624
You're going to teach them

00:30:44.644 --> 00:30:46.326
to like point to Jesus.

00:30:46.747 --> 00:30:48.689
And that's really what Jesus wants, right?

00:30:48.729 --> 00:30:50.491
He says that his burden is light.

00:30:50.851 --> 00:30:53.313
So come to him and to find rest.

00:30:53.653 --> 00:30:54.433
And I think that that's

00:30:54.534 --> 00:30:55.855
ultimately what happens

00:30:55.894 --> 00:30:57.396
when we truly worship Christ.

00:30:57.477 --> 00:30:58.857
Like we're getting off of

00:30:58.938 --> 00:30:59.838
ourselves and off of our

00:30:59.878 --> 00:31:02.401
circumstances and remembering who he is,

00:31:02.421 --> 00:31:04.442
how sovereign he is, his, you know,

00:31:04.563 --> 00:31:06.064
all of his attributes, his grace,

00:31:06.104 --> 00:31:07.384
his mercy, his steadfastness,

00:31:07.785 --> 00:31:08.986
and that we can trust in

00:31:09.006 --> 00:31:10.247
that in those different seasons.

00:31:10.327 --> 00:31:12.308
And I think a lot of people, you know,

00:31:12.388 --> 00:31:15.172
to really maximize this course, um,

00:31:16.538 --> 00:31:18.740
you do get to study bits and

00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:20.721
pieces of missionaries, essentially,

00:31:20.921 --> 00:31:22.662
or all these pen writers,

00:31:23.102 --> 00:31:25.923
they had a life that was not always easy.

00:31:26.103 --> 00:31:31.165
And so I think finding that camaraderie of,

00:31:31.586 --> 00:31:31.905
okay,

00:31:31.986 --> 00:31:34.207
suffering is a part of this fallen world,

00:31:34.626 --> 00:31:36.827
but we do have the hope of

00:31:37.188 --> 00:31:39.169
the new heavens, the new earth,

00:31:39.249 --> 00:31:41.329
all of this is gonna be done away with,

00:31:41.410 --> 00:31:43.711
but how well did they run their race

00:31:44.124 --> 00:31:46.125
that will encourage me to run my race.

00:31:46.185 --> 00:31:48.468
Like, like Christie said with, you know,

00:31:48.528 --> 00:31:49.508
in Hebrews where it talks about,

00:31:49.868 --> 00:31:51.910
we have a cloud of witnesses, you know,

00:31:53.070 --> 00:31:53.372
but I,

00:31:53.612 --> 00:31:55.993
I would like to say that it creates

00:31:56.453 --> 00:31:57.974
critical thinking and discernment.

00:31:58.615 --> 00:32:00.076
And I think that those are

00:32:00.116 --> 00:32:01.999
two things that our culture lacks.

00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:02.880
Um,

00:32:03.299 --> 00:32:04.740
and you can only have good critical

00:32:04.780 --> 00:32:06.281
thinking and discernment with truth.

00:32:06.843 --> 00:32:08.743
And this is saturated with the truth,

00:32:08.784 --> 00:32:09.644
with the gospel,

00:32:09.724 --> 00:32:10.986
which is our greatest need.

00:32:11.006 --> 00:32:12.968
It's the cure for every sin.

00:32:14.102 --> 00:32:15.883
And what I mean by that is

00:32:15.923 --> 00:32:18.042
like with with these worldview workouts,

00:32:18.223 --> 00:32:18.923
it says, you know,

00:32:19.064 --> 00:32:21.605
after you're studying a child of the king,

00:32:21.664 --> 00:32:22.144
it says,

00:32:22.525 --> 00:32:24.306
what are blessings provided to

00:32:24.365 --> 00:32:25.385
children of the king?

00:32:25.705 --> 00:32:27.145
And it encourages you to use

00:32:27.185 --> 00:32:28.467
a Bible concordance and go

00:32:28.547 --> 00:32:30.326
online with your parents, you know,

00:32:30.346 --> 00:32:31.607
permission, depending on their age.

00:32:32.167 --> 00:32:33.308
and then you know and here

00:32:33.328 --> 00:32:34.650
at the back once for all

00:32:34.970 --> 00:32:36.111
that was a huge thing um

00:32:36.531 --> 00:32:37.692
you know the fact that we

00:32:37.813 --> 00:32:39.394
have faith in christ alone

00:32:39.433 --> 00:32:40.934
there are no extra works

00:32:40.994 --> 00:32:42.215
the atonement belongs to

00:32:42.256 --> 00:32:43.696
christ and his blood alone

00:32:44.116 --> 00:32:45.838
and this this right here

00:32:46.239 --> 00:32:48.260
like this hem once for all

00:32:49.402 --> 00:32:50.903
the kids got in these deep

00:32:50.942 --> 00:32:52.584
conversations so to have it

00:32:52.784 --> 00:32:54.965
in a sunday school class a bible study

00:32:55.435 --> 00:32:57.135
at any age level is great

00:32:57.155 --> 00:32:58.457
because you can dig deep

00:32:58.997 --> 00:33:00.436
and really start thinking critically.

00:33:00.477 --> 00:33:01.257
What does the Bible,

00:33:01.297 --> 00:33:02.876
what is Hebrews really all about?

00:33:02.957 --> 00:33:03.698
Like if you've read

00:33:03.718 --> 00:33:04.978
Leviticus and you know that

00:33:05.038 --> 00:33:07.337
Hebrews is Jesus is better, it's done,

00:33:07.498 --> 00:33:07.978
it's finished.

00:33:08.179 --> 00:33:09.739
There's nothing more we add to it.

00:33:10.219 --> 00:33:11.558
And that's a huge

00:33:11.638 --> 00:33:13.440
theological theme that we

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:14.359
need to remember.

00:33:14.819 --> 00:33:15.799
And it says, you know,

00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:16.900
once for all gives the

00:33:16.940 --> 00:33:18.520
believer such reassurance.

00:33:18.621 --> 00:33:19.520
So now we're talking the

00:33:19.560 --> 00:33:20.780
doctrine of assurance.

00:33:21.381 --> 00:33:23.781
And that Christ paid the price.

00:33:24.082 --> 00:33:25.363
We only need to accept the

00:33:25.403 --> 00:33:26.644
salvation he offers.

00:33:27.163 --> 00:33:28.263
So then it encouraged them

00:33:28.324 --> 00:33:31.246
to write a poem about the

00:33:31.306 --> 00:33:32.846
joy each Christian has

00:33:32.946 --> 00:33:35.248
because of God's free gift of salvation.

00:33:35.567 --> 00:33:36.448
You can choose to write

00:33:36.488 --> 00:33:37.808
about salvation in general

00:33:38.148 --> 00:33:40.190
or the specific benefits of salvation.

00:33:41.124 --> 00:33:41.604
And I'm like,

00:33:41.663 --> 00:33:42.905
where else are you going to do that?

00:33:43.046 --> 00:33:43.705
Think about that.

00:33:43.726 --> 00:33:45.367
You have to think critically.

00:33:45.847 --> 00:33:48.109
And then you'll also have like discernment,

00:33:48.190 --> 00:33:48.509
you know,

00:33:48.650 --> 00:33:50.412
and it brings you back to the truth,

00:33:50.471 --> 00:33:51.792
which is God's word,

00:33:51.833 --> 00:33:53.013
which is Jesus himself.

00:33:53.394 --> 00:33:55.036
And the more you wash your

00:33:55.076 --> 00:33:58.278
mind in the truth, the truth, you know,

00:33:58.318 --> 00:33:59.298
is going to penetrate that

00:33:59.338 --> 00:34:00.059
heart and that mind.

00:34:00.099 --> 00:34:02.402
And that's going to make an impact.

00:34:02.642 --> 00:34:03.823
And for our kids,

00:34:04.143 --> 00:34:06.404
they question what they're reading,

00:34:06.444 --> 00:34:07.826
what they're seeing.

00:34:08.086 --> 00:34:09.427
Some families, you know,

00:34:10.034 --> 00:34:13.677
changed churches because of this course,

00:34:13.717 --> 00:34:17.101
because of wanting from less, you know,

00:34:17.242 --> 00:34:20.184
man centered and more

00:34:20.565 --> 00:34:21.826
Christ centered worship.

00:34:22.407 --> 00:34:24.389
And because that has creeped in,

00:34:24.429 --> 00:34:25.030
in the modern,

00:34:25.597 --> 00:34:27.219
you know, church in Africa.

00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:28.458
And it's,

00:34:28.539 --> 00:34:29.378
so it's kind of like a

00:34:29.418 --> 00:34:30.539
reformation of like,

00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.360
let's go back to the basics

00:34:32.420 --> 00:34:34.161
of just seeing the truth.

00:34:34.240 --> 00:34:35.661
What are we like thinking

00:34:35.742 --> 00:34:36.702
about what you're singing,

00:34:36.762 --> 00:34:37.942
what you're reading, what you're doing.

00:34:38.262 --> 00:34:38.882
And as you saw,

00:34:38.922 --> 00:34:40.643
you've got some poetry encouragement,

00:34:40.702 --> 00:34:41.943
like writing stanzas.

00:34:42.664 --> 00:34:44.125
They, you know, there's word puzzles.

00:34:44.144 --> 00:34:45.445
So there's something new every day,

00:34:45.824 --> 00:34:46.885
but that's also leading

00:34:47.005 --> 00:34:48.166
into some of your language

00:34:48.266 --> 00:34:50.847
arts that you can still use by, you know,

00:34:50.947 --> 00:34:52.126
learning to write a poem.

00:34:52.206 --> 00:34:53.708
And so I think it's so,

00:34:54.389 --> 00:34:55.269
So diverse.

00:34:55.630 --> 00:34:57.391
And it's it's such a great

00:34:57.932 --> 00:35:00.335
course because it's really just worship.

00:35:00.454 --> 00:35:02.456
And it's a tool, like Christy said,

00:35:02.496 --> 00:35:05.300
to help you just get and to

00:35:05.340 --> 00:35:06.300
start your day that way,

00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.083
like to get in the word and

00:35:08.123 --> 00:35:09.425
to start your day that way.

00:35:09.905 --> 00:35:10.686
And then when you're going

00:35:10.726 --> 00:35:12.427
through hard times, you know,

00:35:12.547 --> 00:35:13.989
you can think, but hallelujah,

00:35:14.009 --> 00:35:14.650
what a savior.

00:35:15.099 --> 00:35:16.679
You know, and oh,

00:35:16.981 --> 00:35:18.260
Philip Bliss is the one who

00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.081
also wrote it as well, like, you know,

00:35:20.121 --> 00:35:21.061
the tune for it as well.

00:35:21.101 --> 00:35:23.061
But he wrote Hallelujah, What a Savior.

00:35:23.603 --> 00:35:24.682
And, you know,

00:35:24.702 --> 00:35:26.443
to constantly think about

00:35:26.483 --> 00:35:27.983
the fact that we have been redeemed,

00:35:28.023 --> 00:35:29.164
we are children of God.

00:35:29.204 --> 00:35:30.045
It almost feels like you're

00:35:30.105 --> 00:35:31.925
living out Ephesians and

00:35:32.125 --> 00:35:33.525
all those blessed benefits

00:35:33.565 --> 00:35:34.585
we have as being redeemed.

00:35:35.085 --> 00:35:37.387
cold air with Christ, children of the Lord,

00:35:37.568 --> 00:35:37.887
you know,

00:35:37.987 --> 00:35:39.588
and that we were wanted and called.

00:35:40.168 --> 00:35:42.490
It's amazing to have your

00:35:42.530 --> 00:35:43.570
mind set on those things

00:35:43.650 --> 00:35:45.373
and then to have a tool

00:35:45.432 --> 00:35:46.293
that helps you think

00:35:46.353 --> 00:35:49.235
critically and to think with discernment,

00:35:49.255 --> 00:35:50.755
to have discernment and then have to

00:35:51.257 --> 00:35:53.199
make life choices however

00:35:53.219 --> 00:35:55.099
you know goes because a lot

00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:56.099
of people are always like

00:35:56.219 --> 00:35:57.940
we want logic and we want

00:35:58.001 --> 00:35:59.362
to you know have our kids

00:35:59.661 --> 00:36:01.021
discern well get in the

00:36:01.061 --> 00:36:02.302
word and masterbooks

00:36:02.382 --> 00:36:03.784
overall helps you get in

00:36:03.824 --> 00:36:04.684
the word because it's

00:36:05.043 --> 00:36:06.885
honestly put before you and

00:36:06.925 --> 00:36:11.067
that's um you know how that

00:36:11.166 --> 00:36:12.867
that is a blessing to just

00:36:12.907 --> 00:36:14.047
have god's word constantly

00:36:14.068 --> 00:36:15.349
before us and that's how we grow

00:36:15.768 --> 00:36:17.489
And we are constantly being sanctified.

00:36:17.568 --> 00:36:19.911
And so I think that it's a blessing.

00:36:19.951 --> 00:36:20.972
And it would be great to do

00:36:21.032 --> 00:36:23.793
it with parents and, you know, grandkids.

00:36:24.434 --> 00:36:25.494
Because that's what I tell my kids.

00:36:25.514 --> 00:36:26.414
I was like, when I die,

00:36:26.434 --> 00:36:28.315
if I live long enough, when I die,

00:36:28.697 --> 00:36:29.896
all I want is to be

00:36:30.398 --> 00:36:31.958
surrounded or at least be

00:36:32.018 --> 00:36:34.099
buried with my whole family

00:36:34.139 --> 00:36:35.760
singing these hymns.

00:36:36.101 --> 00:36:36.922
Because, you know,

00:36:36.942 --> 00:36:38.902
they will comfort your heart,

00:36:38.983 --> 00:36:41.065
but it will be the anthem of my life,

00:36:41.244 --> 00:36:44.686
which is Jesus to be my all in all.

00:36:44.786 --> 00:36:45.648
He's my all in all.

00:36:46.074 --> 00:36:47.394
And I want anybody there

00:36:47.454 --> 00:36:50.036
who's not saved to know Jesus is King,

00:36:50.175 --> 00:36:50.536
you know?

00:36:51.416 --> 00:36:53.016
So beautiful.

00:36:53.237 --> 00:36:53.896
I love that.

00:36:53.996 --> 00:36:55.976
You both have given us such

00:36:56.016 --> 00:36:57.257
a rich understanding of

00:36:57.318 --> 00:36:58.998
what's in this course and

00:36:59.038 --> 00:37:01.079
what's in the course is so rich, right?

00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.978
So thank you both for your,

00:37:04.498 --> 00:37:06.320
your passion to disciple

00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.119
your families and using

00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:09.380
master books and helping

00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:10.981
the moms of master books,

00:37:11.451 --> 00:37:13.251
to really dive in and see

00:37:13.291 --> 00:37:14.711
what courses are about and

00:37:14.751 --> 00:37:17.432
how they can benefit their own families.

00:37:17.693 --> 00:37:21.134
And I'm excited about the course now.

00:37:21.173 --> 00:37:23.195
I'm excited to see who else

00:37:23.394 --> 00:37:24.835
is excited about even just

00:37:24.974 --> 00:37:26.275
using the course for themselves,

00:37:26.856 --> 00:37:27.755
even if their children

00:37:27.795 --> 00:37:28.956
aren't old enough yet.

00:37:29.215 --> 00:37:30.637
I think it would be great to

00:37:30.697 --> 00:37:31.597
do as a couple.

00:37:32.597 --> 00:37:34.577
However it works, I would do it.

00:37:35.413 --> 00:37:35.753
Well,

00:37:36.134 --> 00:37:37.934
you're along with your quiet time in

00:37:37.974 --> 00:37:39.516
the morning to have it.

00:37:39.615 --> 00:37:40.936
The hymns are wonderful to

00:37:40.976 --> 00:37:42.697
go along with your daily Bible reading.

00:37:43.918 --> 00:37:46.380
And that's, um, for moms who are, um,

00:37:46.641 --> 00:37:46.940
you know,

00:37:47.001 --> 00:37:48.842
have maybe kids like seven and under,

00:37:48.882 --> 00:37:49.822
or even 10 and under.

00:37:50.777 --> 00:37:53.519
To do it each day, like just a verse,

00:37:53.739 --> 00:37:55.081
you copy it, you read it,

00:37:55.101 --> 00:37:57.262
you kind of think through it,

00:37:57.742 --> 00:37:58.784
and then you can play the

00:37:58.824 --> 00:38:00.525
song and your whole family can learn it.

00:38:00.565 --> 00:38:01.505
So you could be doing it as

00:38:01.545 --> 00:38:02.385
a personal devotion,

00:38:02.425 --> 00:38:03.467
which is much more

00:38:03.507 --> 00:38:05.827
attainable for moms who are

00:38:05.887 --> 00:38:06.789
in that season where it's

00:38:06.829 --> 00:38:08.309
like sleep deprivation, so real.

00:38:09.871 --> 00:38:12.393
It's so easy for them to at least do that,

00:38:12.813 --> 00:38:13.092
you know,

00:38:13.112 --> 00:38:15.153
or do that with their kids for

00:38:15.195 --> 00:38:15.974
their morning time.

00:38:16.014 --> 00:38:18.177
So I do it every season.

00:38:18.436 --> 00:38:19.077
It's great.

00:38:20.844 --> 00:38:21.005
Well,

00:38:21.045 --> 00:38:23.507
thank you both so much for being a

00:38:23.547 --> 00:38:24.507
part of the Masterbooks

00:38:24.568 --> 00:38:26.329
team and for being so

00:38:26.389 --> 00:38:27.809
giving of your time and

00:38:27.909 --> 00:38:28.971
sharing your experience.

00:38:29.010 --> 00:38:30.211
We really appreciate it.

00:38:30.793 --> 00:38:33.255
And we want to bless your families,

00:38:33.335 --> 00:38:33.994
the listeners,

00:38:34.054 --> 00:38:34.996
the watchers of this

00:38:35.096 --> 00:38:40.239
podcast with this call to worship,

00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.003
to worshiping Jesus, to turning from self,

00:38:44.063 --> 00:38:45.804
to knowing the word and

00:38:45.864 --> 00:38:48.146
being able to use this part

00:38:48.186 --> 00:38:50.487
of our soul that the Lord has given us to

00:38:51.057 --> 00:38:52.518
to worship him and to

00:38:52.597 --> 00:38:54.298
regurgitate the word in a

00:38:54.358 --> 00:38:56.139
way that lifts in the way

00:38:56.179 --> 00:38:57.878
that re reinsures and that

00:38:57.958 --> 00:38:59.440
makes our faith more solid.

00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:01.480
So I'm so thankful that all

00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:02.679
of you have the opportunity

00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:04.400
to use this and I sure hope you will.

00:39:05.681 --> 00:39:07.420
So thanks for joining us on the podcast.

00:39:07.460 --> 00:39:09.320
Remember you can have an

00:39:09.420 --> 00:39:11.021
opportunity to win one

00:39:11.061 --> 00:39:13.041
digital copy of this book.

00:39:13.161 --> 00:39:14.521
Just check out the moms and

00:39:14.541 --> 00:39:17.983
master books app as well as the, um,

00:39:18.981 --> 00:39:20.762
the Moms of Masterbooks Facebook group,

00:39:20.862 --> 00:39:22.724
as well as the Masterbooks app.

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I said that wrong.

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I apologize.

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And you can find in the show

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notes details about

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foundations and worship.

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And when you go to

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masterbooks.com and search for it,

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you can find a free PDF

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download so you can see

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what the course is all about.

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So thanks for being here, everyone.

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We'll see you next time.